mac resource fork and file sharing

[h***@gmail.com]

Hi,
I have a bunch of fonts on a windows 2003 server that is shared for
macs to access, all the macs have macosx so we just use smb to mount
the directory because afp gives us lots of trouble.
this morning all the fonts suddenly show as 0kb on the macs, so I read
up a bit and find out about this data fork / resource fork thing, not
too sure I understand it yet. how can I let the macs see their fonts on
the smb drives?
Steven

[Rod Dorman]

Post by h***@gmail.com
I have a bunch of fonts on a windows 2003 server that is shared for
macs to access, all the macs have macosx so we just use smb to mount
the directory because afp gives us lots of trouble.
this morning all the fonts suddenly show as 0kb on the macs, so I read
up a bit and find out about this data fork / resource fork thing, not
too sure I understand it yet. how can I let the macs see their fonts on
the smb drives?

Mac resource fork and finder info can be stored on MS-Windows file
systems in two different ways. The older AFP method used by Services
for Macintosh stored them in NTFS alternate data streams. Theres a
program called Dave that will do that too.

The newer (OS/X via SMB) method is to store them in a second file
named ._xxx where xxx is the filename you're referencing.

It sounds like you somehow lost the ._ files.

Those files have the 'hidden' attribute when looking at the directory
from an MS-Windows viewpoint. Did some MS-Windows user shuffle the
fonts around without realizing/understanding the tie-in?

[h***@gmail.com]

Post by Rod Dorman

Post by h***@gmail.com
I have a bunch of fonts on a windows 2003 server that is shared for
macs to access, all the macs have macosx so we just use smb to mount
the directory because afp gives us lots of trouble.
this morning all the fonts suddenly show as 0kb on the macs, so I read
up a bit and find out about this data fork / resource fork thing, not
too sure I understand it yet. how can I let the macs see their fonts on
the smb drives?

Mac resource fork and finder info can be stored on MS-Windows file
systems in two different ways. The older AFP method used by Services
for Macintosh stored them in NTFS alternate data streams. Theres a
program called Dave that will do that too.
The newer (OS/X via SMB) method is to store them in a second file
named ._xxx where xxx is the filename you're referencing.
It sounds like you somehow lost the ._ files.
Those files have the 'hidden' attribute when looking at the directory
from an MS-Windows viewpoint. Did some MS-Windows user shuffle the
fonts around without realizing/understanding the tie-in?
--
-- Rod --
rodd(at)polylogics(dot)com

We use the default windows - mac afp file sharing, but it started
giving hassles so seing as OSX did SMB I started using that, it seemed
more stable.
The trouble I was having with afp was that some mac-shared folders
wouldn't show in chooser.
I figured out now that if I share that folder for macs and connect usig
afp it the fonts do work.
Nobody's moved the files or anything.
Steven

[William Smith]

Post by h***@gmail.com
We use the default windows - mac afp file sharing, but it started
giving hassles so seing as OSX did SMB I started using that, it seemed
more stable.
The trouble I was having with afp was that some mac-shared folders
wouldn't show in chooser.
I figured out now that if I share that folder for macs and connect usig
afp it the fonts do work.
Nobody's moved the files or anything.
Steven

Hi Steven!

Mac files placed on a server via an AFP connection generally won't be
usable when later accessed via SMB. These two file sharing protocols
place the files on the server in different ways and they aren't
compatible.

Have your Mac users copy their files from the server via AFP, reconnect
via SMB and then copy the files back to the server. Not an elegant
solution but it should be the most reliable.

Hope this helps! bill

[h***@gmail.com]

giving it a bash...
Thanks
Steven

Post by William Smith

Post by h***@gmail.com
We use the default windows - mac afp file sharing, but it started
giving hassles so seing as OSX did SMB I started using that, it seemed
more stable.
The trouble I was having with afp was that some mac-shared folders
wouldn't show in chooser.
I figured out now that if I share that folder for macs and connect usig
afp it the fonts do work.
Nobody's moved the files or anything.
StevenHi Steven!

Mac files placed on a server via an AFP connection generally won't be
usable when later accessed via SMB. These two file sharing protocols
place the files on the server in different ways and they aren't
compatible.
Have your Mac users copy their files from the server via AFP, reconnect
via SMB and then copy the files back to the server. Not an elegant
solution but it should be the most reliable.
Hope this helps! bill
--
William M. Smith
(Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows)